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Obama
Apr 28, 2010 22:20:39 GMT -5
Post by Wicked×ÑÇ on Apr 28, 2010 22:20:39 GMT -5
over all do u think he has done a good job?
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Obama
Apr 28, 2010 22:33:45 GMT -5
Post by Steph on Apr 28, 2010 22:33:45 GMT -5
No, I think he has hidden agendas I read the health care bill in class, yes we took sections He has lied to my face, because I watched him blatantly say things that were untrue from what I had just read. So either he is ignorant and has no clue what are in the different bills he lies about or he is a fucking moron. The new immigration bill (no not AZ) will bankrupt us, wtf is he thinking, schools are going down the shitter, but hey if you want higher taxes, with more government spending on SHIT, then he is the man for you. Don't get me wrong, I hate the Republicans also. He keeps saying he "inherited the debt" hello the Democrats were in power with the passing of Fanny Mae BS, he voted as a senate for it, crooooooooooooooooooooook, simple.
I hate pork barrel spending and do not listen to any media they r all bias, but DO read the bills in entirety and make an informed decision, that is the only way. America was based on strong states and a central government that isn't too big...we r heading to "big brother" and it scares me.
What scares me more are the people w/o education who never read any informative information about their "candidates" and have no idea what they stand for. Lazy fucking Americans who hope that their lazy voting ways will be ok, surprise surprise this is what we end up with. The should have seen the way he voted in congress, I'm sure few even looked it up!
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Obama
Apr 29, 2010 0:08:40 GMT -5
Post by Decimato on Apr 29, 2010 0:08:40 GMT -5
Anybody who believe Glenn Beck or Fox News singlemindedly will get punted in whatever genitalia they possess. Same with Tea Partiers', I'm all for debate, but not with that group of brainwashed neocon bigots.
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Obama
Apr 30, 2010 21:39:34 GMT -5
Post by Steph on Apr 30, 2010 21:39:34 GMT -5
u cant believe anything, CNN= liberal brained washed liars, as is all news....but at least fox news has the bills right from the ones i have read, unlike CBS, NBC and CNN obviously paid for by obama. Just read the bills simple, no news but the plain and simple truth. People wont too damn lazy simple, so they depend on media paid by liberal lies, such a joke
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Obama
May 4, 2010 8:19:17 GMT -5
Post by Decimato on May 4, 2010 8:19:17 GMT -5
I'm not gonna argue one way or another, but I'll be honest, I'm a moderate/liberal on most things. Fox News is a group of bigoted jackasses who are RACIST and use lies, manipulation, and prejudices to stoke the paranoias of casual American viewers, some who would be quite pleasant otherwise. MSNBC is liberally biased, I will gladly admit that, I dislike them as much as I do Fox News, just because I want honesty in reporting, not what some person tries to tell me is going to happen because of this.
I've read bits and pieces of the healthcare bill, not all 2000+ pages just because I don't have that sort of inclination, but enough to get a little bit of the idea. The bill will help give 30 million Americans some sort of health insurance who don't already have it, it helps to eliminate insurance companies from denying coverage to sick patients on the basis of "preexisting conditions", AND if all goes well it will even help reduce the deficit that we possess due to President Bush and his wars that were foisted upon us. Maybe it's my soft spot for other people, but I like the idea of helping others get insurance coverage so that they can be treated and cured if sick or injured.
I come from a really poor family too, so I won't lie, the idea of some sort of coverage being available is nice, especially since money is pretty hard to come by, even with my mom working backbreaking 12 hour shifts at the local papermill, and will be even harder for me once I start school again in the fall, even when I get a job of my own. I suppose those disagreeing with me would like for my family and I to go without, and that's their opinions they're entitled to, but I don't play nice when discussing things that affect me personally, this is about as generous as I'll be over the healthcare issue.
It's not perfect, but it helps many people, it stands to help myself and my family, and it's a good start to things. Anybody who disagrees with me has that right, but I reserve the right to crush them in a debate if I so choose, because I may possibly see their view as selfish and/or an attack on myself and my family and will respond accordingly.
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Obama
May 4, 2010 10:00:20 GMT -5
Post by Finz on May 4, 2010 10:00:20 GMT -5
The thing is, it is getting a bit lame. I see a lot of americans calling being social, communism, and being liberal, racist.
I believe if this is the case, and it will go further, you will find yourself in a civil war soon. Which is kinda funny though, 95% of American forces are overseas pushing up democracy through mens throat, and there is a civil war in USA, lol
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Obama
May 4, 2010 19:20:23 GMT -5
Post by MØNST€® on May 4, 2010 19:20:23 GMT -5
You see that's the problem...americans want change and want it now like it's going to happen in 1 second. Shit ain't like that ..takes time. patience and not only that but try to be united as a nation. as long we keep having these political debates and not coming together . then u.s is not going to change. To me obama is doing an ok job. but not great ...time will tell if he did well or not. bush was in office for 8 years and he didn't do nothing but made things worst. but everyone at the beginning was all on his nuts at the beginning and towards the end of his presidency they were throwing shoes at him.
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Obama
May 21, 2010 18:06:55 GMT -5
Post by Steph on May 21, 2010 18:06:55 GMT -5
You can't read bits and pieces, and since my health care just went up 422$ and I'm going to school something is very wrong. It did NOTHING to deal with insurance companies raping us. I have seen racism on CNBC, FOX, CNN, oh yeah ALL CHANNELS. Never from Megyn on FOX, she is bright and witty and definitely not a racist but tells it like it is.
Today I watch Obama with Prez of Mexico making an ass out of himself over immigration. Obama brought him here for nothing more that Votes from Hispanics: "Oh he likes Obama, then I won't read his policies, I will just vote for him" (Ignorance is the fall of voters)
But when CNN (Not Fox) asked Prez of Mexi, so our immigration bill stinks (and Obama smiled with Prez of Mexico, like "we r buddies and he likes me...barf) but when he was asked, so is your law better, let's take a look. -You must show identification when ask at anytime (ANYTIME, Not during unlawful contact) -You may not get any type of education -You will be fined, jailed and sent back asap ****Mexico is also in Violation on human rights at their Southern Borders, wowz, rape, shooting people who cross and bribery, nice. So he can condemn the US but his blows
What about how Mexico treats foreigners People Not born here:
-1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.
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2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.
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3. All government business will be conducted in our language.
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4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.
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5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office
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6 Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will be deported. (WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWZZZZ)
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7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
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8. If foreigners come here and buy land... options will be restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.
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9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.
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10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted and when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you.
Many Countries has similar laws, but god forbid if US has a law, then we r all just racists...meh
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Obama
May 21, 2010 18:27:13 GMT -5
Post by Finz on May 21, 2010 18:27:13 GMT -5
How it is in the Netherlands
People Not born here:
-1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools. If you want a bilingual program you will have to take care of that from own resources
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2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.
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3. All government business will be conducted in our language. Yet you can get translations
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4. Non-residents will have the right to vote but only after 5 years and only for the community they live in. When you have no Dutch citizenship you can not vote for national or regional parlement, only local * * * * * * * *
5. Non-citizens will can be able to hold political office but only in the community they live in i think, no Dutch citizenship required for that, but i could be wrong there
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6 Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. Unless they are insured for the peoples insurance that every citizen has when they work here or if a familymember works here. For students other rules apply.
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7. Foreigners can invest in this country, i have no idea if there is a minimum on that, must be i guess, couldnt find it
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8. foreigners can buy land and houses
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9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. These will lead to deportation. This can all be done here, although it is forbidden to bad mouth the queen, but that goes for Dutch ppl to. That is against the law
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10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted and when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. Same in NL, although not like it is written here, but still, caught, camp, deportation to land of origin when it is safe
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Obama
May 21, 2010 18:31:56 GMT -5
Post by Steph on May 21, 2010 18:31:56 GMT -5
wow, so I guess all Netherlanders r racist too -.-
Obama u blow and ur only looking for ignorant people who do not read ur policies to vote.
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Obama
May 21, 2010 19:14:04 GMT -5
Post by Decimato on May 21, 2010 19:14:04 GMT -5
Eh, I'm done with political debates, everybody's got their own perspective on things.
Personally, I'm poor and I'm a student, but I also plan on working too, so Obama's policies are something that I like. Immigration isn't my fight, I've never had a problem with an immigrant, legal or illegal, and I think it's up to the border states how to police their borders, as long as basic civil rights are guaranteed to any detainees, and ditto with the state governments across the country. I dislike the Arizona bill because it will lead to discrimination, there's no way to avoid that, unless everybody's status was checked during police stops and etc, including white and black people too, but that won't happen, so meh.
If others disagree with him or don't like him because he's black, or because they distrust him or his policies, or disagree with them, or any other reason, then it's their call, I like the guy myself, I don't see how he's hurting the country as some may say, but if they do, then they have every right to disagree with him and to try to vote him out of office in 2012. I just hope that they can be civil in their disagreements, and not lie or slander him, or stoke the fires of paranoia in others, liberal and socialism aren't swear words, and neither are conservative or republican either, if people would just try to agree to disagree for once, that'd be pretty nice for a change.
One of the few things I can't stand in politics though is how people will lie and attack others while trying to say they're doing it "for the good of the people" or whatever. Both sides are pretty much in it for themselves, Democrats AND Republicans, MSNBC AND Fox News, it's just two sides of the same self-servicing coin. It's why I'm registered as an Independent, I just vote the issues, not the candidates, since they're nothing but cheap suits, repeating their party's talking points and lobbyist-bribed whichever party they're in.
So yeah, that's pretty much my viewpoints on stuff, if others think differently, let 'em, I'm not gonna argue about something so small as politics, lol. Now psychology stuff.....eh....I could go on about that stuff for a good bit.
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Obama
May 22, 2010 6:23:57 GMT -5
Post by Finz on May 22, 2010 6:23:57 GMT -5
study the politics is a psychology practical test, XD
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Obama
May 22, 2010 12:05:47 GMT -5
Post by ÑÇ×Ðëàth/ Grïmm on May 22, 2010 12:05:47 GMT -5
enough said
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Obama
May 24, 2010 19:28:02 GMT -5
Post by Steph on May 24, 2010 19:28:02 GMT -5
Well one good thing that Obama implemented in the health care bill is higher interest for college students and college loans to help pay for health care costs. Rich college kids won't have loans. Smart scholarship only college kids won't have loans, but everyone else, nice to see he knows who to tax....READ the bills people in entirety! Ignorance is only your fault, and not knowing isn't an excuse it is all out there.
and seriously if your only reasoning for liking or disliking a Prez for skin color, just wow, grow the fuck up! But Obama is not entirely to blame, Congress! Get rid of them this November if you can vote!
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Obama
Sept 9, 2010 19:05:30 GMT -5
Post by rebel on Sept 9, 2010 19:05:30 GMT -5
Barack Obama recently backed the building of Mosque in NY(ground zero)... If you thought Americans were mad prior, try seeing it now.
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Obama
Sept 9, 2010 19:25:07 GMT -5
Post by «Ñ©¶Fﮣ§†å®»™ on Sept 9, 2010 19:25:07 GMT -5
he said he'd end the war...... war still goes on
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Obama
Sept 9, 2010 19:36:35 GMT -5
Post by Decimato on Sept 9, 2010 19:36:35 GMT -5
I have nothing much to say....I like Obama as a person, dislike everything political from both sides now, Dems and Repubs, and I sincerely HATE Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin. About sums it up basically.
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Obama
Sept 10, 2010 18:51:14 GMT -5
Post by rebel on Sept 10, 2010 18:51:14 GMT -5
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Obama
Sept 18, 2010 11:55:18 GMT -5
Post by Hunter™ on Sept 18, 2010 11:55:18 GMT -5
lol sarah palin should not even be taken serious anymore..momma grizzly? cmon.... Glenn Beck is THE MAN deci, dunno what your talkin' bout.
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Obama
Sept 19, 2010 15:58:42 GMT -5
Post by Decimato on Sept 19, 2010 15:58:42 GMT -5
Just wait until next year, Hunter, when they try to do a 10th anniversary rally for 9/11 in NYC.......hundreds of thousands of tbaggers there........you really want that?
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Obama
Sept 19, 2010 16:04:30 GMT -5
Post by Hunter™ on Sept 19, 2010 16:04:30 GMT -5
not really btw in case you missed the sarcasm, i really think Glenn Beck is a paranoid narcissistic conspiracy theorist and lets face it..he's a loony :/
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Obama
Oct 3, 2010 17:39:27 GMT -5
Post by Steph on Oct 3, 2010 17:39:27 GMT -5
I hate Sarah, Beck (fat ass), Obama and most in congress. Let's see what happens in Nov. Hopefully people will not whine if they don't vote. This is y im an independent.
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Obama
Oct 3, 2010 18:07:43 GMT -5
Post by Finz on Oct 3, 2010 18:07:43 GMT -5
I think the teaparty thing only benefits the democrats,
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Obama
Oct 5, 2010 22:41:28 GMT -5
Post by Decimato on Oct 5, 2010 22:41:28 GMT -5
Eh, I'm registering to vote this week, probably gonna do it as an Independent, just because I hate both sides by now.
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Obama
Oct 5, 2010 23:09:08 GMT -5
Post by rebel on Oct 5, 2010 23:09:08 GMT -5
I can't wait to register to vote, then my VOICE can be heard!
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